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The Cuntze Family of Niederndorf and Oberfischbach

January 25, 2017 By Germanna 8 Comments

By Barbara Price

The Cuntze / Kuntze / Coons family can be traced back to around 1500 in the village of Niederndorf, located in the parish of Oberfischbach, near the city of Siegen.

The family appears to have moved back and forth between Niederndorf and Oberfischbach. (1) The parish of Oberfischbach originated in the 12th century and in 1597 was comprised of the villages of Oberfischbach, Heisberg, Oberschelden, Niederndorf, Dirlenbach, Niederheuslingen, Oberhueslingen and Bottenberg.

In 1665, Prince Johann Moritz of Nassau-Siegen dedicated a silver communion set to the parish of Oberfischbach and it is still in use today, 350 years later.

In 1703, the Rev. Henry Haeger, and his wife, Anna Catharine Friesenhagen, came to Oberfischbach where he was the parson, or minister.

The Kuntze family attended church in Oberfischbach and would have been very familiar with the Rev. Henry Haeger and the schoolteacher, Hans Jakob Holzklau.

Were they an influence on Jost/Joseph Cuntze, and his family, to emigrate to America when Johann Justus Albrecht was recruiting miners for the George Ritter Company in Siegen?

The village of Niederndorf, and home of the Cuntze family, is well known in the mining industry with an iron works dating back to at least 1417.

The owner of the iron works at that time was Tyl van Fispe, the ancestor of the Fischbach/Fishback families. The Kuntze/Cuntz family was also involved in the mining industry.

Johannes Kuntze, the father of the 1714 immigrant, Jost/Joseph Cuntze, and all of his sons, including Jost/Joseph Cuntze, were all members of the Steelsmiths and Toolmakers Guild. (2)

Jost/Joseph Cuntze received permission to leave his country on 31 July 31 1713 (see Emigration Permission below), the same day that Philip Fischbach and Hans Jacob Richter obtained their permission to leave: (3)

Jost/Joseph Kuntze/Cuntze was born in 1674 in Niederndorf, the son of Johannes and Anna (Schuster) Cuntze.

He married Anna Gertrud Reinschmidt on 7 Feb 1704 and along with their children, Johannes and Anna Elisabeth, emigrated in 1713.(4)

The Kuntze home is still standing in Niederndorf and occupied today (see below).

Joseph Cuntz proved his importation to Virginia in 1724, along with his wife, Katharin, and children in the Spotsylvania courthouse:

It is thought that Joseph’s first wife, Anna Gertrud, died early upon arrival in Virginia and that “Katharin” is the second wife of Joseph Cuntz. She is probably Cathrin Weber/Weaver, the daughter of Johann/John and Anna Margaretha (Huttmann) Weber/Weaver.

Cathrin is not listed in the importation document of her brother, Tillman Weaver, but he does list his mother, indicating that his father is dead, and, as you can see in the document below, Joseph Cuntz lists his wife as being imported in April 1714 and her name is Katharin. (5):

Joseph Cuntz died in 1731, both of his wives preceding him in death, in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Virginia, according to his will that was probated on 10 Feb 1731.(6)

Other members of the Cuntze family also emigrated to Virginia—the nephew of Jost/Joseph Cuntze, Johann Jost/Joseph Coons, and his niece Anna Margarethe Kuntze, both children of his brother, Johannes Kuntze and his wife Catherine Daub, immigrated to Virginia in 1737 and 1750, respectively.

Anna Margarethe Kuntze married Tillmann Weissgerber/Whitescarver, also from the village of Niederndorf. They emigrated to Virginia in 1750 with their 6 children, settling in Culpeper Co., but not with the Little Fork Colony,(7), as it was called, due to its location at the Little Fork of the Rappahannock River in the northern part of Culpeper County.

Johann Jost/Joseph Cuntze/Coons was born in Niederndorf in 1712, the son of Johannes Cuntze and his second wife, Anna Gertrud Stieger.

He emigrated to Virginia in 1737, probably staying with his relatives in Germantown (Fauquier County) before being granted 127 ½ acres in the Little Fork (Culpeper County) on 8 December 1747.

This land was located between the land of two other members of the First Colony, Jacob Holtzclaw and John Fishback, and below the land of John Crim/ Grimm.

John Crim, son of Christian and Elisabeth Spielman Grimm of Oberschelden, was also an immigrant from Nassau-Siegen, and was related to First Colony immigrant John Spielmann / Spilman.(8) This is yet another link to the Germanna immigrants of 1714!

The home of Joseph Coons, the 1737 immigrant, is still standing and occupied in Jeffersonton, Virginia, once part of the Little Fork Colony:.

Jacob Holtzclaw and John Fishback, enterprising members of the First Colony, purchased more than 2000 acres in the Little Fork area in order to settle families here. This was just one of several land ventures in which the two were partners.

This venture was successful in that many of the families of the Little Fork Colony were either relatives or neighbors of the First Colony immigrants and had lived in the Nassau-Siegen area of Germany.

Kinship and settlement patterns in the Little Fork Colony is positive proof of active communication between the members of the First Colony and their homeland.

Sources:

(1) B. C. Holtzclaw, Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750, (Virginia, The Memorial Foundation of the Germanna Colonies in Virginia 1964), 89-93.
(2) Ibid, 91.
(3) Furstentum Siegen Landesarchiv 11, No. 28th.
(4) Holtzclaw, Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750, 93
(5) Will Book A, Spotsylvania County, Virginia, 74.
(6) Stafford County, Virginia Will Book 1729-48, 22.
(7) Holtzclaw, Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750, 92, 95, 520.
(8) B. C. Holtzclaw, “The Little Fork Colony “in The Story of Germanna Descendants in Reunion at Siegen Forest Virginia, (Virginia, The Memorial Foundation of the Germanna Colonies in Virginia 1960), 10.

This article was first published in the Spring 2014 edition of the Germanna Foundation newsletter. Get our newsletters delivered to your home by becoming a member.

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Comments

  1. Marie Walker says

    January 28, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    Barbara, will it be possible for us to see the communion set and the church at Oberfischbach on our trip to Germany this year (2017)

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  2. Phyllis Counts says

    November 7, 2017 at 10:50 am

    Might we have a page link as to why Germanna Foundation believes these families with different spellings are actually linked and one of the same? There has been a longstanding dispute between the Counts and Koontz lines that they both are descended from Jost Cuntze; as if they couldn’t have both been.

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    • Barbara Price says

      November 7, 2017 at 4:30 pm

      Probably the best way to establish the connection between the various spellings of the surname is through documentation for each generation to the 1714 immigrant, Jost Kuntze. I’ve seen several different spellings of the name in the original documents, i.e., the name is spelled “Kuntz” in the permission to immigrate in 1713, and it’s spelled “Cuntz” in the importation statement in 1724. But, in the will of Joseph Cuntze dated 10 Oct 1730 and probated on 10 Feb 1731, he spells his name “Counts or Couwnts.”

      In the case of Johann Jost Cuntze, the nephew of the 1714 immigrant, Jost Kuntze, his name is spelled Cuntze, Coans and Coons. He immigrated to Virginia in 1737 and settled in the Little Fork Colony located in present day Jeffersonton, Culpeper County.

      I would try documenting both the Counts and Koontz lines to see where they take you and I would also suggest DNA testing, that might solve the mystery for both families! If you don’t have it, you may also want to get a copy of Germanna Record No. 5: Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750 by Dr. B. C. Holtzclaw. He traces each of the twelve families that immigrated to Virginia in 1714, along with the families that comprised the Little Fork Colony, most of whom were relatives of the 1714 immigrants. He goes into detail about their ancestry and descendants, as the title states, and the Kuntze/Cuntze/Cuntz/Coons family is one of those families. They are very well documented in Germany and in Virginia.

      I hope this help!

      Barbara Price

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  3. Cheryl Bloomfield says

    September 26, 2018 at 12:52 am

    Is there dna from this family on familytreedna? Balthasar Kunz/Kouns/Counts etc. is in the book, Nassau-Siegen Immigrants and lived in Frederick Co., VA, first land record was 1766 Benjamin Lehman sold McNishes Run property. We haven’t been able to find his ancestor and have been researching since 2000!
    DNA would help us tremendously, and add or subtract him as a relation to this family
    Thank you, Cheryl Koontz Bloomfield

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    • Barbara Price says

      September 30, 2018 at 11:23 am

      The Cuntz/Kuntze family is represented in the Germanna DNA Project at Family Tree DNA. I will post the link for you to the YDNA page, at least two descendants have tested:

      https://www.familytreedna.com/public/GermannaDNA/default.aspx?section=yresults

      The link for the mtDNA is:

      https://www.familytreedna.com/public/GermannaDNA/default.aspx?section=mtresults

      If you have male descendants that have tested, you should be able to compare their results with the descendants that have been tested. Let me know whether or not y’all are a match!

      Barbara Price

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  4. Blake says

    February 22, 2019 at 8:21 pm

    Joseph Cuntz is my 9th great grandfather on my dad’s side. Very interesting.

    Reply
  5. cathywoodosborn says

    May 4, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    The earliest proven generation of my Kinsey family was Thomas Kinsey/KInzie (Sr.) born 22 Jan 1781 in Culpeper County, VA. The family tradition is that our Kinsey ancestors were German. We have long believed that Kinsey is an Americanized version of Kuntze. Male descendants of our family have a surname project at FamilyTreeDNA for those who have tested Y-dna. The group is open also to those who test autosomal dna (FamilyFinder). We have over 50 members, the vast majority of which are related through our Kinsey forbears. As administrator of the project, I invite any descendants of Joseph Cuntz/Kuntze to test their Y-dna at FamilyTreeDNA and join our project.

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  6. Daniel Counts says

    January 1, 2020 at 11:51 pm

    I am a descendant of Jost Cuntze. I am a member of the Counts family which moved to Texas.

    Reply

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